Jump to content

  • Welcome to Auto Parts Forum

    Whether you are a veteran automotive parts guru or just someone looking for some quick auto parts advice, register today and start a new topic in our forum. Registration is free and you can even sign up with social network platforms such as Facebook, X, and LinkedIn. 

     

DIY Brake Jobs


Recommended Posts

As a technician, the most common after-hours call I get is from friends or relatives who are doing their own brake work. Inevitably, they run into trouble and have gone from no real problem to no brakes at all in the course of an evening.

I can’t come down on DIYers for getting it wrong, because I’ve seen a lot of professional technicians who don’t do a good job at it either. But truth be told, it’s not that difficult if you have everything you need before you get started. The parts and the tools are half the battle, but the knowledge of what to do and how to do it is the other half. For this article, we’ll just tackle disc brakes, and leave drums for another time.

First, let’s look at some of the ways that DIYers are at an immediate disadvantage when it comes to tools, equipment, supplies and time — and how they can use your professional help.

No professional technician can accurately diagnose what’s needed for brake work until they disassemble the vehicle for inspection. Sure, it’s often easy to just look at the brakes and make an initial assessment. For example, if the pads are worn down to the metal and grinding away at the rotors, we know it needs pads and rotors at a minimum.

But, there still are a lot of questions, regardless of what you can see. Are the calipers OK? Are the hoses OK? What about the caliper slide pins and boots? Can the rotors be turned? What about the condition of the brake fluid? Are the pad carriers (caliper brackets) worn out? All of these questions can be answered only through disassembly and inspection.

The inspection leaves DIYers at a disadvantage because what if it’s their only car, or what if they’re trying to do this after work? If they tear something apart to inspect and then they need to get parts, if they don’t have another car at their disposal, it’s either walk, ride a bike or put it back together and drive to the parts store. Nobody – technician or DIYer – likes to double their work, so they want to get all the parts they need first, and then tackle the job.

Tools and equipment leave them at a disadvantage because it’s safe to say they don’t have a brake lathe, a caliper-piston tool or any type of suction device to remove brake fluid from the master cylinder either.

As a parts professional, this is where the fun begins. You have to dig into what they’re doing so you can get them the parts and tools they need before they start the job. At a minimum, if you prepare them for any potential issues, they at least will know what they may be facing and have a plan in place so they’re not high and dry should a problem arise. Plus, if they don’t get what you recommend – and find out later that they need it – they can’t blame you.

Recommend New Rotors

What plays to your advantage is that turning rotors is uncommon, even for shops that have a lathe. There are many factors involved that affect how long a rotor may last or if it can be turned, including the type of pads, the type of rotor, how the owner maintains the vehicle, driver-braking habits and the climate the vehicle lives in.

Still, most of the time, the rotors are too thin or too rusty to resurface. And, for the uncommon ones that you can, the cost of labor for a DIYer to have it done or a shop to do it on a customer vehicle outweighs the cost of a new one.

For these reasons, it’s a good and honest practice to recommend pads and rotors every time. The exception would be some trucks and vans that have excessively expensive rotors, and most of these are usually solid enough to be turned. Of course, you’ll have a number of DIYers who will want to “pad-slap” the car, but the pads will never break in or wear right in those situations.

In addition to pads and rotors, hardware and caliper slide-pin service kits always should be recommended. Some pads come with the hardware (anti-squeal shims, clips, etc.), but if not, you should sell them a kit.

Slide-pin boots, even when they look OK upon disassembly, ideally should be replaced. They see constant motion and temperature change and even if they’re not torn, they’ll be relaxed in comparison to new and they won’t provide the same tight seal to keep grease in and contaminants out. In short, if you use the old ones, you’re using worn components that may fail and shorten the lifespan of a new brake job.

So, they have pads, rotors, hardware and boots. (Keep in mind fixed calipers won’t have boots; we’re just covering the most common type.) The majority of the time this is all they’ll need, but here’s where you can prepare them for what they may need once they get things torn apart.

Getting Into the Job

Once they’ve unbolted the calipers, the first thing they’ll need to do is draw some brake fluid out of the master cylinder to prevent it from spilling when they push the pistons back into the calipers. An inexpensive suction-bulb works well; it’s a nice tool to keep on the shelf. And no, they shouldn’t use the turkey baster from the kitchen. Brake fluid is highly corrosive and can do immediate damage to painted and other surfaces, so the best rule is avoid spilling.

Next, the pistons must be pushed back into the calipers, but inspect the piston boot first. If it’s torn, the caliper should be replaced. A caliper-piston tool is what should be used, because it will push the piston back evenly, but a lot of people may use a “C” clamp or large channel locks. The goal is to push the piston back evenly into the caliper so you don’t bind it up.

If they don’t have the correct tool and they don’t want to buy one from you, we understand. Money doesn’t grow on trees. Tell them to place an old brake pad on top of the piston before pressing it back in. It will help distribute the force evenly. The piston will go back in slowly, but should require only light pressure. If you really have to force it, it’s time for calipers.

Ideally, you should open the bleeder screw or crack the hose fitting when pushing the piston back. This prevents contaminants from being forced back past the seals in the master cylinder and it’s the best practice, but again, this is reality. Bleeders may not open, and hose ends could be rusty. Technically, should they replace calipers and hoses at that point? Yes, but we have to respect the fact that DIYers are trying to save money. They will usually buy what they need if they really need it, but if you help them perform the job economically, they will respect you for that.

Caliper Brackets

For the majority of disc-brake systems, a caliper bracket (or brake-pad carrier) is bolted to the steering knuckle. The bracket fits over the rotor, and one brake pad rests on each side. The bracket also houses two caliper slide pins, and the boots allow the pins to slide in and out (allowing the caliper to float, so the pads will wear evenly.)

The brake caliper itself bolts to the slide pins. When servicing or replacing the brakes, the caliper should be removed first, then the bracket. Even though the entire assembly can be removed as one and the pads wrestled in and out, it’s not the proper way to do it. You’re not able to properly inspect and prepare the bracket using this method.

The bracket is where the brake pads rest, and also where any anti-rattle clips or shims will reside. Not only is it important to make sure the bracket is completely clean and free of rust buildup (the most common problem,) but it also should be inspected closely for wear. In many cases, the brake pads ride directly on the bracket and often will wear deep grooves in it. This will prevent the pads from sliding freely and the bracket will need to be replaced in this situation, which means it’s time for calipers, since they will come with the bracket.

A tip for doing the job right: Once the caliper bracket is cleaned and any new shims are in place, the pads should slide into place on the bracket very easily. If they don’t, there’s still rust buildup on the bracket. It’s easy to miss. It often takes more than a wire brush to remove it.

The other important aspect of the bracket is the slide pins. They must slide freely in and out or else the brake pads won’t wear and/or release properly. What I see frequently on new/remanufactured calipers that have special coatings or paint is that this coating is dripping or running into the hole for the slide pin and puddling at the bottom.

The result is everything will seem normal when installing the brakes, but when the brake pedal is pressed, the caliper won’t release, and the wheel will be locked solid. As soon as you unbolt the caliper from the slide pins, the brakes release. It’s a dead giveaway. A quick hit with a drill bit will remove the offending coating from the slide-pin hole. The calipers are not defective, as a customer may try to claim. It’s an easy fix.

Pads, rotors, hardware and boot kits are the core parts needed to get the job done. Basic hand tools should be enough to remove the caliper. Special tools are a caliper-piston tool and a suction tool, and you’ve prepared your customer for the possibility of needing calipers.

Brake calipers begin to wear and degrade the moment they’re put into service, and while it’s not uncommon to see them last for 100,000 miles or even longer, the more miles they have and the older they are, the closer they are to failing. It’s not if they will, it’s when. Calipers wear out; it’s a simple fact. So, if someone is really pushing the limits of mileage and time, save them a headache down the road and sell them the calipers now.

Parking Brakes

There are a few extra things that should be in their shopping cart, but before we get to that, rear disc brakes can be a fly in the ointment of a routine DIY brake job. Generally speaking, everything is the same, but the catch is the parking brake. Some parking brakes actually are small drum-brake assemblies, utilizing a small drum machined inside the rotor. What’s nice about these is they are identical to front brakes from a service or repair standpoint.

What’s not so nice is often it can be difficult to remove the rotor because the shoes will hang up on the inside. A good majority of the time – especially since most people rarely use their parking brake – the shoes, hardware and cables are all rusted and seized and need to be replaced. This is great from a parts standpoint, but many people opt not to fix it, and we’ll get into drum brakes at a later date.

The other style of parking brake is incorporated into the caliper, and an internal mechanism forces out and retracts the piston. Until recent years, most of these were cable-operated and the mechanism was mechanical. The only trick to these is that you need yet another special tool to return the piston into the caliper. The pistons must be rotated and pushed in at the same time; without the proper tool, you’ll be there for hours. Other than that, the job is identical to the front, and, in most cases, you can leave the brake cable attached. Only if it prevents you from lifting the caliper off and out of the way do you need to remove it.

More and more will you be seeing and answering questions about electronic parking brakes (EPB). The electronic actuator and mechanism takes the place of the cable and mechanical internals and, honestly, I like them. I think they’re much easier to deal with. But, again, this system puts the DIYer at a disadvantage. In many cases, you need a scan tool to retract the piston and put the caliper into a service mode.

Some manufacturers were nice enough to build the function into the existing on-board vehicle software. You just have to be able to decipher the often-confusing instructions and figure out how to get through multiple menus and mystery functions to make it happen.

Seriously though, if it requires a scan tool, there’s no way around it. Period. Unless a DIYer has a way to borrow one or wants to buy one, they won’t be able to perform the job.

Don’t Forget Fluid

What else does a DIYer need to do a brake job? Fluid, for one. You can’t change brake fluid too often, and most likely it hasn’t been done. What I see most of the time is someone pushing the pistons back in without extracting any fluid from the reservoir. It usually overflows. Then, when they’re done with the brake job and set the pedal, the fluid level is fine.

Recommend against this as strongly as possible. If brake fluid is anything other than transparent with the light gold hue that it has out of the bottle, it’s bad. Dark fluid means it’s contaminated with both moisture and particles from degrading rubber hoses and seals.

Get it out of there! The best thing to do, bleeding or not, is to draw as much as you can out of the master-cylinder reservoir before you push the pistons back in. Then, after the pistons are pushed all the way back, draw any additional fluid out and fill the reservoir with fresh, clean fluid before setting the brake pedal or bleeding.

Brake lubricant? Is it special? You bet. It can handle the heat of brakes, it’s designed to stay in place and not wash away, and it’s designed not to damage any of the rubber seals and components it comes in contact with. Use it on slide pins and anywhere the brake-pad backing plates contact the caliper or caliper bracket.

The post

link hidden, please login to view
appeared first on
link hidden, please login to view
.

link hidden, please login to view

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Similar Topics

    • By Mia
      When it’s time to replace your vehicle’s brake pads, you often face the question: should I opt for OEM brake pads or aftermarket ones? Consulting repair shops or friends typically results in recommendations for OEM brake pads. However, for us, changing brake pads isn’t daunting; what’s crucial is understanding the differences between these two types. This understanding allows us to make an informed decision about which type is suitable for our needs.
      What Is OEM Brake Pads
      OEM stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer. OEM brake pads are manufactured by the same company that produced the original brake pads installed in your vehicle when it was first built.
      These brake pads are designed to meet the specifications and standards set by the vehicle manufacturer. They are often sold through authorized dealerships or parts suppliers affiliated with the vehicle brand. OEM brake pads are known for their exact fitment, consistent performance, and compatibility with your vehicle. They typically come with a warranty and are considered to offer a high level of quality and reliability.
      And they have stringent requirements. From the production process to the shipment of brake pads, everything is manufactured and inspected according to standards. In practice, the brake pads installed in vehicles are all qualified and trustworthy products.
      What Is Aftermarket Brake Pads
      Aftermarket brake pads are brake pads manufactured by third-party companies not affiliated with the original vehicle manufacturer. These companies produce brake pads that are compatible with a wide range of vehicle makes and models. Aftermarket brake pads are often designed to meet or exceed the performance and quality standards set by OEM brake pads.
      They are available in various materials, including semi-metallic, ceramic, and organic compounds, offering a range of performance characteristics and price points. While aftermarket brake pads may offer cost savings and a wider selection compared to OEM options, the quality and consistency of aftermarket products can vary depending on the manufacturer.
      It’s important to research and select reputable aftermarket brands to ensure compatibility and performance.
      AFTERMARKET VS. OEM BRAKE PADS: PROS & CONS
      Aftermarket brake pads:
      Pros:
      Cost: Aftermarket brake pads typically come at a lower price point compared to OEM brake pads, making them a favorable choice for customers with budget constraints Variety: Aftermarket brake pads come in a wide range of options, including different materials and performance characteristics, allowing consumers to choose pads that best suit their driving needs. Availability: Aftermarket brake pads are widely available from various retailers and suppliers, making them convenient to purchase. Potential Performance Enhancements: Aftermarket brake pads manufacturers also improve braking performance, such as reduced noise, better heat dissipation, or enhanced stopping power. Cons
      Quality Variability: Many aftermarket brake pad manufacturers prioritize low prices, which can result in inconsistent quality. This often leads to issues such as excessive noise, inadequate friction coefficient, and increased wear on brake discs, which are highly unfavorable circumstances. Compatibility Issues: While aftermarket brake pads are designed to be compatible with a variety of vehicles, issues can arise with the dimensions of the brake pads. This can lead to mismatched installations or excessive gaps, resulting in noise and impacting brake performance. Warranty Concerns: While aftermarket brake pad manufacturers often provide warranty periods, many times, these warranties do not accurately reflect the actual lifespan of the brake pads. In other words, the lifespan of the brake pads is significantly reduced, leading to more frequent replacements compared to OEM brake pads, thereby increasing the overall budget for maintenance. OEM brake pads
      Pros:
      Exact Fitment: OEM brake pads are designed to precisely fit the specifications of your vehicle, ensuring optimal performance and safety. Quality Assurance: OEM brake pads are manufactured by the same company that produced the original parts for your vehicle, guaranteeing consistent quality and reliability. Warranty Coverage: OEM brake pads typically come with a warranty from the vehicle manufacturer, providing peace of mind and protection against defects or failures. Manufacturer Support: Purchasing OEM brake pads from authorized dealerships or parts suppliers often comes with access to manufacturer support and assistance. How Should We Choose
       
      Actually, for us ordinary consumers, when choosing brake pads, we often compare based on quality and price. But for some brake pad manufacturers, isn’t there one that produces aftermarket brake pads with quality comparable to OEM brake pads? 
      The answer is yes, and KETULLA is one such factory. Established in 2000, we’ve been in the business for 24 years, continuously researching, developing, and optimizing brake pads.
      We have obtained authorization from 6 automotive manufacturers to produce brake pads, earning us the title of OEM brake pads manufacturer.
      Whether it’s aftermarket or OEM brake pads, we uphold the same standard of quality as OEM brake pads. This is evident in several aspects:
      Dimension: We adhere to strict specifications for brake pad dimensions, maintaining a tolerance range of 0.1 to 0.2mm, which fully complies with OEM brake pad standards. Materials Selection: No asbestos(Actually, we stopped using it 10 years ago) We use high-quality materials(ceramic carbon fiber, graphite, metal fiber)in our brake pads, ensuring durability and performance comparable to OEM standards. Copper-free: We strictly adhere to international standards by manufacturing brake pads that are copper-free, thus avoiding environmental pollution Manufacturing Process: Our production process follows strict guidelines and quality control measures to maintain consistency and reliability in every brake pad we produce. Testing and Certification: Each brake pad undergoes rigorous testing to ensure it meets or exceeds industry standards and safety requirements. Quality Guarantee: We stand behind the performance of our brake pads, offering warranties and support to ensure customer satisfaction and safety on the road. link hidden, please login to view low metallic brake pads link hidden, please login to view semi metallic brake pads link hidden, please login to view ceramic brake pads GF truck brake pads
       
      Hope you can get more knowledge about brake pads from this website:  
      link hidden, please login to view
    • By Mia
      Changing your brake pads is a manageable task if you have the right tools and follow the steps carefully to help you replace your brake pads: Tips
      Always replace brake pads in pairs (both front or both rear) to ensure even braking. Dispose of the old brake pads and any other materials properly, following local regulations. Consult your vehicle’s manual for specific instructions and torque specifications. Welcome to learn more about brake pad types from here: 
      link hidden, please login to view 1. Tools and Materials Needed
      Jack and Jack stands Lug wrench C-clamp or brake caliper tool Wrench or ratchet and socket set Brake pads Brake fluid Bungee cord or string Gloves and safety glasses Wheel chocks 2. Prepare the Vehicle
      Park your vehicle on a flat surface and engage the parking brake. Place wheel chocks behind the rear wheels to prevent the car from rolling. 3. Raise the Vehicle
      Use a jack to lift the car off the ground, and then place it securely on jack stands. 4. Remove the Wheel
      Finish removing the lug nuts and take the wheel off to expose the brake assembly. 5. Remove the Brake Caliper
      Locate the bolts on the back of the brake caliper and remove them using a wrench or ratchet. Carefully lift the caliper off the brake rotor. Use a bungee cord or string to hang the caliper from the suspension to avoid putting stress on the brake hose. 6. Remove the Old Brake Pads
      Slide the old brake pads out of the caliper bracket. Take note of how they are positioned for proper installation of the new pads. 7. Inspect the Brake Rotor
      Check the brake rotor for any signs of damage or excessive wear. If the rotor is in poor condition, it may need to be replaced or resurfaced. 8. Compress the Brake Caliper Piston
      Use a C-clamp or brake caliper tool to slowly compress the caliper piston back into the caliper. This will make room for the new brake pads. Open the brake fluid reservoir cap to make this process easier. 9. Install the New Brake Pads
      Place the new brake pads into the caliper bracket in the same position as the old ones. 10 Reattach the Brake Caliper
      Carefully position the brake caliper over the new brake pads and rotor. Reinsert and tighten the caliper bolts securely. 11. Reinstall the Wheel
      Put the wheel back on the hub and hand-tighten the lug nuts. 12. Lower the Vehicle
      Carefully remove the jack stands and lower the vehicle back to the ground using the jack. 13. Tighten the Lug Nuts
      Use the lug wrench to fully tighten the lug nuts in a star pattern to ensure even pressure. 14. Check the Brake Fluid
      Check the brake fluid level in the reservoir and add fluid if necessary. Replace the reservoir cap. 15. Test the Brakes
      Before driving, pump the brake pedal a few times to ensure the brakes are properly engaged and check for any leaks or issues.
    • By carbdoc
      I can't find a rebuilt brake booster for my 1978 Dodge D-150 truck anywhere; I have been hunting for months.  The Chrysler number is 4094149.  The A-1 Cardone number is 54-73716.   I would settle for a rebuildable core at this point; my old booster is rusted-out on the back side so it is no good as a core.
    • By Mia
      To extend the lifespan of your brake pads, you can adopt several practices and maintenance habits. Here are some tips to help make your brake pads a longer
      Drive Smoothly
      Avoid Hard Braking: Try to brake gently and gradually instead of slamming on the brakes Coast to Stop: whenever possible, let your vehicle coast to a stop rather than braking abruptly.
      Maintain A Safe Following Distance
      Reduce Frequent Braking: Keeping a safe distance from the car in front of you allows more time to brake gently.
      Anticipate Stops
      Pay attention to traffic flow and road conditions ahead to anticipate stops. Gradually slowing down instead of slamming on the brakes can significantly extend the life of your brake pads.
      Avoid Overloading
      Excessive weight puts additional strain on your vehicle's braking system. Try to avoid overloading your vehicle beyond its recommended capacity.
      Coast When Possible
      When approaching a stop sign or red light, coasting instead of maintaining speed can reduce the need for heavy braking.
      Brake Gently When Towing
      If you're towing a trailer or carrying heavy loads, be extra cautious with braking. Allow more distance to stop and brake gently to reduce strain on the brake pads.
      Regular Maintenance
      Follow the manufacturer's recommended maintenance schedule for your vehicle, including brake inspections. Promptly replace worn brake pads before they cause damage to other brake components.
      Use Engine Braking
      When driving downhill, downshift (if you have a manual transmission) or use the engine to slow down the vehicle instead of relying solely on the brakes.
      Avoid Riding The Brakes
      Constantly keeping your foot on the brake pedal, especially when not actively braking, can lead to premature wear of the brake pads. Practice keeping your foot off the brake pedal when not needed
      Quality Brake Pads
      Invest in high-quality brake pads that are suited for your vehicle. While they may cost more upfront, they can last longer and provide better performance.
      Avoid Harsh Weather Conditions
      If possible, avoid driving in harsh weather conditions like heavy rain or snow, as these can accelerate brake pad wear.
      Check Brake Fluid
      Ensure your brake fluid is at the proper level
       
      If you want to know more basic information about brake pads, you can refer to this website: 
      link hidden, please login to view
    • By Mia
      Truck Brake Pads Thickness
      The recommended thickness of truck brake pads may vary depending on the specific brand and model of the truck, as well as the type of braking system installed.
      However, regardless, our principle is to replace them when the thickness is less than 3 to 4mm, which plays a protective role in our safety. The new thickness of truck brake pads is typically 30 millimeters. As the brake pads wear from use, their thickness gradually decreases. Once the brake pads reach the recommended minimum thickness, they should be replaced to ensure optimal braking performance and safety.
      We suggest you check our 
      link hidden, please login to view for more details on this issue Truck Brake Pads Features
      Made 100% in Ketulla Brakes manufacturer , China pad factory Stainless steel backing plates (reduced heat conduction, power powder paint) 30000~50000km pad lifespan ECR 90 Certificated quality with test report Wooden packed box while shipping Premium stainless-steel hardware kits included for installation Best Type Of Brake Pads For Trucks
      We all know that the basic formulas for brake pads nowadays are ceramic, low metallic, and semi-metallic brake pads. However, for truck brake pads, we strongly recommend using the semi-metallic formula. The reason is that semi-metallic brake pads have a much higher wear resistance compared to low metallic and ceramic formulas, even though ceramic formulas are more friendly to the brake rotor.
      what is the difference between ceramic, low metallic, and semi-metallic brake pads, check our link hidden, please login to view, 
       
      The Commercial Heavy Duty Brake Pads Applications
       
      Best Pickup Truck Brake Pads
      KETULLA’s Pickup Truck Brake Pads are expertly crafted for durability and performance. Engineered to handle diverse driving conditions, they provide reliable stopping power, essential for heavy-duty tasks or daily commuting. With 
      link hidden, please login to view advanced friction materials, Ketulla ensures a smooth and quiet braking experience while minimizing brake dust. Ketulla Brake Pads offer consistent performance and safety, elevating driving confidence in every road condition.    
      Best Brake Pads For Lifted Trucks
      Ketulla Brake Pads for lifted trucks are specially engineered to meet the unique demands of modified suspension systems and larger tires. Designed by Ketulla with precision and expertise, these brake pads offer exceptional performance and safety for lifted truck owners. Constructed with high-quality materials, Ketulla Brake Pads provide reliable stopping power under heavy loads and off-road conditions. Engineered to minimize noise and brake dust, they enhance the driving experience for lifted truck enthusiasts.  confidence in every journey. Trust Ketulla to provide the durability and reliability required to complement your lifted truck’s capabilities.
       
       
       
       
        link hidden, please login to view Best Brake Pads For Towing Or Trailers
      Brake pads for towing and trailers serve a similar function to those used in regular vehicles but are often designed to handle heavier loads and more intense braking conditions. When towing a trailer or hauling heavy loads, the braking system needs to exert more force to slow down or stop the vehicle safely.
      Material Composition Heat Dissipation Friction Coefficient Wear Resistance Compatibilit  
       
            Bus Brake Pads
      Bus brake pads are a critical component of the braking system in buses. These pads are designed to create friction against the brake rotors when the brake pedal is depressed, thereby slowing down or stopping the vehicle. The friction generated between the brake pads and the rotors or drums converts the kinetic energy of the moving bus into heat energy, dissipating it into the surrounding air.
      Bus brake pads are typically made from materials KETULLA’s semi-metallic A-grade ceramic materials which we recommended with low dust and low noise.
      High performance Is key important for ensuring the safety of passengers and others on the road.
                                                                                                          
       
      If you want to learn more more pads for your car, click belows to explore more pads brake models.
      link hidden, please login to view
       
       
       
       
       

×
  • Create New...